Many (as in 1980) years ago I was advised - when I bought my “L” - the importance of a 7lb cap.
My car had a cap with the “guts” carefully removed- so effectively it was - at the time - a “0” pound cap.
I had no idea why (hey, I was 24 at the time) and I asked a bunch of friends of mine and old time Mopar guys what the deal was. It turned out that the freeze plugs were on life support so the former owner relieved the pressure on the block.
That - in turn- started a whole dialogue similar to this one relating to the importance of reducing the pressure on our ancient cooling systems and engine blocks. So, I quickly- back then - I adopted the 7 psi cap policy- and have a large collection of 14-16 psi caps I’ve pulled off of every car I’ve bought over the years. I actually have a 4 pound cap on that same “L” that I’ve owned for 45 years.
Reduced pressure is “the way to go” - and I will just leave it there.
As I said earlier-I’ve never had an issue and the level is self leveling- in the top tank.
On May 13, 2025, at 9:59 AM, 'Noel Hastalis' via Chrysler 300 Club International <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
After they replaced my left cylinder head's blown freeze plug at last Fall's Omaha Meet, Mike Meier and Russ Thill advised me to run a 7# cap on my F, which I've done. Eastbound a couple weeks ago out of Lafayette from our Spring Meet, we suffered thru a 1 hour traffic stoppage on I-10 on the west side of Baton Rouge, caused by a 4-car crash. Idling in the warm late morning Louisiana temps, my F's temp needle barely moved, as the car ran nice and cool. All that said, the car will still randomly belch a little coolant.
Noel
On 05/13/2025 8:00 AM CDT mguarneri via Chrysler 300 Club International <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Just to add my 2 cents to this... I have a '56 Windsor with a 331 poly 2 bbl, which I have owned for 48 yrs. As most of you know a good portion of the engine is set up like a full hemi. The manual calls for a 7 psi cap and I never had an issue with the radiator. .... John
In a message dated 5/13/2025 12:35:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, henry.schleimer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
raises a point about the pressure that a cap needs to hold in radiators designed to have an expansion tank on top rather than an overflow. This has always been a controversial topic but I’ll add my two cents worth in support.
When I got my 300C radiator re-cored I went to an expert with a lifetime of experience and who actually makes cores for vintage cars. Talking to him about my parents’ 67 Valiant with a similar radiator design, I bemoaned the fact the top of the tank split along the solder line three times over its 27 year life. He explained his thoughts. Older radiator tanks were wider than the core (to give it volume) but that meant the force trying to rip the seam (pressure x area) was about twice the modern narrower design putting greater stress on the solder. To make sure I never had this problem, he said to use a 7 psi cap, not the factory 14 psi. He said I won’t have a problem of losing coolant and I’ll never have to re-solder the top if the rest of the system is ok. As proof he said it was always the top tank that lifted, never the bottom, because the bottom tank was narrower (and less force on the solder).
I’m prepared to give it a go. Nothing to lose by trying and much to gain in reducing the stress on the tank, hoses etc. If I lose too much coolant too soon, I can always just increase the psi rating or just top it up more often.
I just recalled that my father just used plain water in the radiator back in the day, fifty years ago. So, I just looked up a chart and it shows that plain water will boil at 252 F under 16 psi pressure, but 60% coolant mix will boil at a similar 253 F under 8 psi. So, you can halve the radiator cap pressure for the same outcome (boiling) just by using coolant. Maybe the old “large” radiators were sized for the owners who didn’t bother with coolant? I wouldn’t try reducing the cap pressure on a modern car like John says as they don’t have a lot of coolant to spare increasing the chance of temperature spikes.
Cheers
Henry
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