Re: {Chrysler 300} Rear Plugs Fouling
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Re: {Chrysler 300} Rear Plugs Fouling



At least on poly , it is NOT  all the time . The valve cover actually fills up with oil until it goes down a push rod hole on poly  . That height is above the lower edge of cover / gasket . Caused by crud in rear drain hole , in block —- and on poly aggravated by the passage is not straight down to pan — it goes sideways about an inch in the head . I do not know about B block heads . Probably not the same 
So the exhaust valve stem at the top of ex guide is below the push rod or other drain hole , when you shut  car off and  cover is overfilled , it runs slowly  down exhaust valve which usually  has no oil seal at all . If valve is open , this partially fills chamber , smokes like crazy then ok .  . Rear cylinder only , as it is lowest . 
This is very subtle took a while to find, you think things like rings and  intake valve seals  , even considered adding seals to exhaust?
 Changing those things had no impact at all (!!) 

How it was found:
persistent weeping of  oil at rear corner of valve cover  , and ( the breakthrough ) we noticed raw oil on cyl head at / under exhaust manifold port and on heat riser valve   If ex valve is closed ( love the IF) oil pools  behind exhaust valve head  , runs out exhaust port  . You start , again huge smoke . Saw smoke rising from exhaust manifold area , as it burned off near port 
 Impossible to clear drain with pressure , had to pull heads and drill block , passage was full
of a very hard coke like material . Had to buy a bit long enough . Block was spotless inside , prior owner rebuilt it,  he gave up over this .Shop had boiled out  block did not notice this hard clog apparently . 
Ran like a top after clearing  … 
Not sure about other blocks but this is very real . Took  a few weeks to figure out, thoughts of cracked heads etc 
One of many many issues with this car — now a favorite 290 hp 325 dodge poly , identical block to 315/ 325 d500 , not sure if hemi head has sideways passage, preventing  drilling from valve cover   .  
Big  heads up ! 
jg 
  


On May 29, 2025, at 8:34 PM, Anthony Doughty <62red300h@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Re: the mileage factor, the car is an unrestored original with 35K showing on the 5-digit odometer.  There's a Cenex oil change sticker dated 1977 on the door frame showing 112,900, so the odometer has rolled and the true mileage is probably 135K, 5K of which I've added since acquiring it 2 ½ years ago.  There's a small write-up about it plus photos in the recent Summer 2024 Chrysler 300 Club News featuring the 300H.

Thanks again everyone for all the advice and feedback.

Tony Doughty

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It leaks more immediately at shutdown, and sits on top of the piston until burned off on start up. Higher range plugs will not fix it. No plug can withstand that for long. The B R/B blocks are known for this at high mileage. 

 

Danny Plotkin

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Put higher heat range plugs in at least the two rear cylinders. If it is valve stem seals it is leaking oil all the time, not only at shut down.

Your valve stem seals are shot. My NY 440 had the same illness. The engine is tipped back naturally in the car so oil drains back at shutdown and down the valve stems it goes into the combustion chambers. 

 

I was changing plugs twice a season until I fixed it. Not a bad job. 

 

Danny Plotkin

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Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2025 2:43pm
To: "Chrysler 300 Club Listserver" <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: {Chrysler 300} Rear Plugs Fouling

After about 1000-1500 miles the rear plugs on both side of the 413 in my 300H start to carbon up and fire poorly. The other six plugs are fine.  The carbs have been overhauled, idle settings are shop manual correct, and the car runs really well until the carbon begins to interfere. Anyone have any thoughts or knowledge as to:
(a) why this might be happening and 
(b) how to fix it?
Thanks for any help and advice,
Tony Doughty
  

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